姓名：藤本壯介（Sou Fujimoto）性別：男 ,出生年月：1971 ,國籍：日本,專業(yè)：建筑設(shè)計(jì),畢業(yè)院校：東京大學(xué).藤本壯介是日本新生代最有才華的建筑師之一。他在2000年創(chuàng)建了藤本壯介建筑師事務(wù),海道Noborib所，團(tuán)隊(duì)由15位建筑師、設(shè)計(jì)師、工藝師和研究員組成，同時(shí)擔(dān)任京都大學(xué)、東京理科大學(xué)、昭和女子大學(xué)的客座講師。不管是房屋、臨時(shí)裝置還是醫(yī)療和文化設(shè)施，他們的設(shè)計(jì)總是獲得來自世界各地的掌聲。先鋒的設(shè)計(jì)給事務(wù)所帶來了眾多的獎項(xiàng)，包括《建筑評論》大獎，2008 日本建筑家協(xié)會大獎，2008巴塞羅那世界建筑節(jié)一等獎，2009年《Wallpaper》獎。藤本壯介經(jīng)常用“原始”形容他的作品。他把建筑實(shí)踐看成是探索世界和人道的一種方式。


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what is the best moment of the day?

morning, I'd say, except when it rains (laughs).
I usually wake up early rather than late, and mornings
are very precious for me. I like the beginning of everything.
the morning is the beginning of a day and I like to think of
it as the beginning of architecture.

一天中最好的時(shí)光？

我覺得早晨，尤其當(dāng)下雨時(shí)。
我常常早起，早晨的時(shí)光對我來說很寶貴。我喜歡一切事物的開始階段。早晨是一天的開始，而我常常把它當(dāng)作是建筑的開始。

what kind of music do you listen to at the moment?

I like bach and piano music. in my younger days I loved
the beatles and bob dylan, but recently I like to listen to
classical music.

這個(gè)時(shí)候你會聽哪種音樂？

我喜歡巴赫和鋼琴曲。早些年的時(shí)候我喜歡披頭士和鮑勃迪倫，最近喜歡古典樂了。

do you listen to the radio?

no.
I just listen to cd's.

聽廣播？

不。
只聽CD。

what books do you have on your bedside table?

one of my favorite books is written by toro takemitsu.
he is a great japanese contemporary music composer and
at the same time he's a very good writer. his words about
music, about the japanese culture, about the world inspire
me.

你的枕邊書？

武滿徹先生的一本書我很喜歡，他是偉大的當(dāng)代日本作曲家，同時(shí)寫作也很好。他的一些關(guān)于音樂，日本文化以及世界的話語常常對我有啟發(fā)。

do you read design / architecture magazines?

I don't read them in detail, I just take a look.
mostly japanese but also international magazines.
recently my studio subscribed to domus, architectural
review and architectural record.

看設(shè)計(jì)/建筑雜志嗎？

不細(xì)看，只是翻翻，而且大部分是日本雜志，也有國外的。最近我的事務(wù)所訂了domus，architectural review和architectural record。

where do you get news from?

the internet.

從什么渠道獲取最新信息？

網(wǎng)絡(luò)。

I assume you notice how women dress.
do you have any preferences?

I like clothes by issey miyake.
that's not limited to women, I like his thinking of how to
create clothing.a while ago there was a magazine I looked
at that had images of women in africa wearing issey
miyake's dresses. it was an amazing photo report.
I was very surprised about how the dresses, colors and
their living style blend so well together.

若你對女人的服裝有注意，會對哪些方面感興趣？

我喜歡三宅一生。不僅限于女人，我喜歡他的關(guān)于如何做衣服的思考。先前有本雜志登了些穿著三宅一生的服裝的非洲婦女的照片，這是個(gè)很驚艷的photo report，當(dāng)?shù)厝说纳罘绞骄鼓芘c三宅的服裝、顏色如此完美地融合，讓我很驚訝。

what kind of clothes do you avoid wearing?

complicated suits.
I see clothing as a kind of second nature.

會避免穿什么樣的衣服？

太復(fù)雜的。
我把衣服看作是人的第二本性。

do you have any pets?

not for now.

養(yǎng)寵物嗎？

現(xiàn)在不了。

when you were a child, did you want to become a
architect?

I grew up in hokkaido, in the northern part of japan,
surrounded by nature and I enjoyed just playing in the
forest. I didn't think about any future of mine.
my hero was albert einstein, so originally I wanted to be a
physicist like him, I was interested in the physical aspects of
our world. now I find many similarities in the research and
practice in both fields, architecture and physics. my first
experience with architecture was with antonio gaudi
(through reading a book about him).

從小就像當(dāng)建筑師嗎？

我在日本北邊的北海道長大，那里自然風(fēng)光環(huán)繞，我很享受在森林里玩耍的時(shí)光，從沒想過未來會怎樣。那時(shí)我的偶像是愛因斯坦，所以原先我是想成為像他那樣的物理學(xué)家。我很感興趣世界物質(zhì)的一面。而現(xiàn)在我發(fā)現(xiàn)，建筑與物理這兩個(gè)領(lǐng)域在研究，實(shí)踐方面都有很大的相似性。我最初的關(guān)于建筑的體驗(yàn)與高迪有關(guān)（看了一本關(guān)于他的書）。

where do you work on your designs and projects?

mainly in the office because my work is not only done by me.
I collaborate with my staff through discussions and models,
but when I want to focus on something I prefer to be alone.
in that case I work at home or in a starbucks cafe.

在哪工作？

主要在工作室。因?yàn)槲业淖髌沸枰嗳藚f(xié)作。我會通過討論，做模型來與員工合作。但當(dāng)我想集中精神的時(shí)候會更愿意一個(gè)人呆著，這時(shí)我會選擇在家里或是在星巴克工作。

do you discuss your work with other architects?

sometimes. for example with toyo ito and kazuyo sejima, ...
but we don't discuss, we chat.

會與其他建筑師討論自己的作品嗎？

有時(shí)會。比如像伊東，妹島...但我們不會討論，只是在聊天。

describe your style, like a good friend of yours would
describe it.

I call it 'primitive future'.
a sort of primitive situation that relates to the human 'cave'
habitation but at the same time I like to create something
new for the future.
I recently gave a lecture 'cave or nest', the two embryonic
states of architecture.
a 'nest' is a place for people that is very well prepared,
everything is assembled and very functional, meanwhile
the 'cave' is just a raw space, which people need to explore
and find their own comfort within. this is a situation where
people can use space creatively.
I prefer something like the cave-like-unintentional space.
something that is in between nature and artifact - formless
form.

描述下自己。

我想會是“原初的未來”，與人類洞穴居住環(huán)境有關(guān)的一種原始的狀態(tài)，在這基礎(chǔ)上我想為未來創(chuàng)造出更新的東西。
最近做了個(gè)講座“洞穴，或者巢”，兩種不同建筑生長的原始胚胎狀態(tài)。“巢”是一切已經(jīng)被布置好了的地方，所有事物都被裝配好而且功能化，而“洞穴”只是一個(gè)處于混沌狀態(tài)的空間，在里頭人們需要去尋找，探索他們自己舒適的方式，這是一個(gè)人們可以創(chuàng)造性地去使用空間的環(huán)境。
我偏愛有點(diǎn)像洞穴一樣的無意識空間，一些存在與自然與人造物之間的無定形的形式。

formless form?

space is relationships and architecture generates various
senses of distances.
I'm very optimistic and see architecture as something
between living together and independently. there are many
degrees of interaction amongst people.
to construct a wall is to bisect a space into 0 and 1, however
a space must have intrinsically many graduations between
0 and 1. I like to create an in-between-space, therefore my
works are very basic (I've designed architecture that is
very simple but looks complex due to its geometric form).

無定形的形式？

空間是一種關(guān)系。建筑產(chǎn)生多方面的距離感。
我很樂于看到建筑作為某種介乎公共與私密之間的場所存在，里面人與人之間可以有多層次的交互。建造一堵墻猶如把空間分成0和1，然而空間本質(zhì)上在0與1之間是存在著許多灰色階層的，我想要創(chuàng)造出屬于中間層的空間，因此我的作品都是很基本的（我有一個(gè)項(xiàng)目，原理很簡單但看起來很復(fù)雜，原因在于其幾何構(gòu)成）。

please describe an evolution in your work, from your
first projects to the present day

the projects are becoming bigger because I get the chance to
do more prestigious work, but I don't want to limit myself just
to expensive things. sometimes with private projects that are
low-budget I have more possibilities.

描述下你的演變過程，從第一個(gè)項(xiàng)目到現(xiàn)在

項(xiàng)目越來越大，因?yàn)槲矣袡C(jī)會去做更多更高調(diào)的作品，但對于這種大項(xiàng)目我不愿意限制住自己。有時(shí)一些預(yù)算很少的私活對我而言會有更多的可能性。

what project has given you the most satisfaction?

there are two low-budget projects that I have just recently
finished.one is named house N which is a very simple box
house. an outdoor space that feels like the indoors and an
indoor space that feels like the outdoors. I think we were
successful in creating a space between the house and
city. my ideal is architecture too be roofless and garden-like.
the other project is called 'final wooden house'.
we stacked wooden blocks together to create a very small
house, in which there are no categorization of floors, walls,
and ceilings.because floor levels are relative people
reinterpret the spatiality according to where they are. it was
a big challenge for us, as we needed to consider if there
was enough space for people (laughs).

最滿意那件作品？

剛剛完工的兩個(gè)小活，預(yù)算很低。一個(gè)是house N，很簡單的一個(gè)方盒子，室外的空間感覺像室內(nèi)的，室內(nèi)的空間感覺像室外的。我想我們很成功地創(chuàng)造了一個(gè)介乎房子與城市的空間。我的想法是房子像沒有屋頂?shù)模▓@一樣的。還有一個(gè)是“終極木屋”，我們把木條堆積在一起產(chǎn)生一個(gè)小房子，里邊沒有地板、墻、天花板的劃分，因?yàn)槿藗儠鶕?jù)自己在里面的位置去重新詮釋空間。這個(gè)項(xiàng)目對于我們來說是個(gè)很大的挑戰(zhàn)，因?yàn)槲覀円膊恢览锩媸欠裼凶銐虻目臻g去容納人（哈哈）。

did you modify your buildings a lot during development,
because the client wanted something different?

I like to answer to the clients request as much as possible,
but I do not see it as compromises. I react with a more
creative development. of course clients always have an idea
of what they want and some site specific concerns but at
the same time they like to have something unexpected or
something beyond their imagination. many clients want a
new lifestyle through a new style of house. I propose
something beyond their request and if they like the idea,
the project will start. if they don't like the project at all it will
stop.fortunately our idea, our scheme is a flexible one.
the basic scheme is very strong but it can adapt while still
remaining strong.

由于客戶的原因，你會不會去反復(fù)修改你的設(shè)計(jì)？

我會去盡量滿足客戶的需求，但這不意味著妥協(xié)。我對有創(chuàng)造性的推進(jìn)更感冒。當(dāng)然了客戶對他想要的，以及細(xì)節(jié)方面的敲定總是會有自己的想法，但同時(shí)他們也會想要一些期待以外的，超越他們所能想到的新東西。許多客戶想通過一個(gè)新類型的房子來獲取一種新的生活方式。如果他們喜歡的話，我會給出一些超越他們需求的提議，這樣項(xiàng)目就可以開始了。如果他們不喜歡的話，那就終止。幸運(yùn)的是，我們的想法，我們的方案是很靈活能變通的。最初的方案很有沖擊力，但也能做到適應(yīng)（客戶）而同時(shí)保持很強(qiáng)的沖擊力。

who would you like to design something for?

an art museum or some kind of museum would be very
interesting for me, or an art gallery and a photo studio.
I like to design medical facilities. in 2006 I have worked for
a mental hospital,developing the children's center for
psychic rehabilitation.right now we are designing a library.

你想為誰做設(shè)計(jì)？

我很感興趣藝術(shù)博物館或者別的些博物館，或者畫廊，攝影工作室。我喜歡設(shè)計(jì)醫(yī)療設(shè)施之類的，06年我給一個(gè)精神病醫(yī)院的兒童精神康復(fù)中心做過設(shè)計(jì)，現(xiàn)在我們在設(shè)計(jì)一個(gè)圖書館。

is there any architect from the past, you appreciate a lot?

louis kahn, le corbusier, mies van der rohe...
and of course michelangelo.
I also like the architecture designed by nobody, for example
gothic cathedrals.

以前的建筑師中有沒有誰是你很喜歡的

康，柯布，密斯...當(dāng)然還有米開朗基羅。
我也很喜歡無名氏設(shè)計(jì)的建筑，像哥特教堂。

and those still working / contemporary architects?

I love frank gehry because his architecture is like a second
nature,like a jungle. something beyond artificial things,
it's amazing.

還活躍著的建筑師呢？

蓋里，因?yàn)樗慕ㄖ拖袷堑诙匀?，猶如叢林，超越了人造物，很讓人驚嘆。

what advice would you give to the young?

I'm still a young architect.
so yeah um...
enjoying things is very important.

對于年輕人有沒有建議？

我也還是個(gè)年輕建筑師，所以...嗯，享受樂趣是很重要的。

what are you afraid of regarding the future?

I think I we have to be very serious about the change
in climate and the situation of nature. I think that it is a
great opportunity for us to rethink about
the modern age culture of controlling everything.
we have to change that kind of whole super controlling
situation.for example air conditioning - when we use it we
close and shut out nature and we are limited in the space
we have. the artificial machine of the air conditioning is
controlling our space and separating each other.
instead we might be able to live together and use a kind of
natural power to create a more comfortable space.humans
should adapt a bit more, rather than control.

對于未來會有什么擔(dān)心的嗎

我想我們會很認(rèn)真的對待氣候異常和自然問題。我想對于我們來說這是個(gè)很好的時(shí)機(jī)去反思“掌控自然”之類的現(xiàn)代主義文明。我們不要再抱著想掌控一切的想法了。比方說空調(diào)，當(dāng)我們在使用空調(diào)時(shí)，我們會關(guān)上門窗，與自然隔離開來，卻被限制在自己的空間里?？照{(diào)控制了我們與這個(gè)空間，并且（把空間）一個(gè)個(gè)都相互分裂開來。相反地，我們應(yīng)該要生活在一個(gè)天空下，使用自然的力量去創(chuàng)造更為舒適的空間。相比掌控一切，人類更要應(yīng)該學(xué)會的是適應(yīng)。